But I haven't seen any sign of this anywhere else in your comments, and you still seem to be against the government helping anyone, even the homeless, the disabled, those who can't work for a living, orphans, - i.e. the most desperate and poverty-stricken of society - because you say it's morally wrong to take money from someone and give it to someone else.
Yes, because this is not the government's job. It is our job as people and neighbors. It is our failing and shortcomings and lack that we try to shirk off on the government because something must be done. No, it is on us. Don't put it off on someone else.
I would love to hear more about what would make unbridled capitalism concerning. That might lead to more of a convergence of our views.
I will have to think more about this. My thoughts have been in the opposite direction for quite some time.
This I agree with. The UK has been doing this too and it's really scary.
Why is it scary? I think it is scary because at the bottom, the truth, the reality, is that it will come and bite us. This is the same danger with taxing someone else to pay for your cause. Except that the reality will come and bite them and that is their problem not ours.
The last few years have seen the rise of far-right groups all over the world
Yes, so we have all been told. How do we know? Perhaps they are all just regular hard working people who want nothing of the wokeness or government overreach and just want to have their little plot of land and live in peace. Just because the reactionary left calls someone far-right doesn't mean anything. You have to actually listen to what they say for yourself. That's why MSM is an abbreviation. Everyone over here knows exactly what you mean. The block of everyone on TV nodding with the narrative.
Perhaps Canada is an exception.
lol Canada is terrible over here.
The UK has seen a trend to the right for the last 11 years ever since the Labour government was beaten by the Tories. Every election and referendum has been another victory that has pushed us further right.
Yes, we have applauded your sensibilities and hope you continue. You get told this or that thing is a bad idea and then everyone votes for it and you can't understand why. That is a dangerous position because you don't actually know what the opposition thinks or why.
Things are much, much harder for the homeless in the UK than they were 10 years ago. There are some sickeningly sad and depressing stories about people who ended up on the streets through a series of misfortunes, and where there used to be aid, there isn't any more.
That's terrible news. But at the same time I don't trust the narrative. Aren't there always stories one can tell of homeless people. We can focus on homeless people when we don't like what is going on in politics and then not talk about it when things are going our way. Are the homeless people migrants? Were they coming for the aid? There are a lot of details that really matter behind this statement.
I live in the academic world and you're right, there capitalism is assumed to be wrong without argument and without explanation
Yes and Christianity as well.
Of course nobody listens to the academics. Every academic I know wanted Britain to remain in the EU, yet we voted to leave.
The people didn't listen to the academics. But the media did. That is why you don't hear good convincing arguments about why you should leave. They won't platform such "far right" speech. The internet is the next frontier.
The most concerning trend that I see in the West is a polarisation of views, so it is impossible to take a middle ground. You have to go more and more extreme in one direction or the other, and if you suggest even to your own side that they tone it down a little, you're reviled as a traitor to the cause. There is no longer any nuance, any willingness to see value and truth in both sides.
It is only true (generally speaking) on that side. The left sees the right as evil, the right sees the left as misguided. On the right we have plenty of debate and tolerance for disagreement. We want to argue and hear the opposition. We want to be right, of course, but if you're right and on the right, they can just silence you instead of debating you. (I am not speaking from experience)
Frankly, I don't like the warfare metaphors at all. Calling it a battle or whatever - it makes it so easy to see the whole problem as being "them" and not "us." It makes it so easy to draw the line between good and evil so that we are good and they are evil. And why dialogue or debate with evil? It just needs to be stopped by whatever means possible. I think there is truth and goodness, and falsehood and evil, on both the left and the right, and that doesn't mean I'm "Centrist" as if I didn't feel that strongly about it. I feel very strongly about many of the issues, but I don't see one side as the primary enemy and the other side as mostly alright.
There is a lot of talk of civil war in the air. Most of it is merely talk I'm sure. What if the president you elected was doing great things but the media always talked bad about him. And then he was impeached as a political move, not that there was anything that was proven. And then a pandemic came as he was being impeached and he took decisive action suspending travel as he was ridiculed for it as being racist. And then the pandemic was used as a way to pass mail in voting which until yesterday everyone agreed was prone to error and fraud. Your president objected to it. You hear about right wingers being removed from facebook and youtube and twitter. The election comes and you see your president on track to win and then wake up in the morning to his loss. You see the sharp jumps in the opposition tallies that occurred in the middle of the night while you slept. What are those? What happened? Mail in votes. We look at the bell weather counties, the ones that seldom fail to predict the election. They show that your candidate should have won. You check the rest of the country. Your candidate, it turns out, only did poorly (relative to expectations) in exactly the counties required for him to lose. You find out that the polls in those areas were not letting observers in to observe the count. They put up paper on the windows to prevent people from seeing in. Lawsuits are filed. Not one of them was heard on the merits. They were all dismissed on procedural grounds. Filed too early, filed to late, none of your business. None of the lawsuits aired the questions you actually had to reassure you that things were done properly. You find out that even if some lawsuits had gone through, the chain of custody for ballots had been broken, there is no way of knowing and verifying. The time runs out and all there is left is a long shot that people in Washington will look into it. There is a "mostly peaceful" protest in Washington of the same sort that have been going on all year on the other side. The president calls for protesters to go home. He is then kicked off of twitter for incitement to violence. People have been getting kicked off these platforms for quite some time now. Let's go to Parler. That is banned overnight too. The MSM spins stories about hateful speech and the far right. Thousands of military troops are called in to protect the capital. A laundry list of executive orders are signed by the new president none of which you agree with. Two branches of government are in their hands and there is talk of stacking the courts so they can have a majority in that branch as well. Yes, there is talk of civil war. Fortunately most of it is talk.
